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I thought you’re for free speech.” One is leaning to the other.

So, people take these terms, they completely remove them from context, and they throw them around like some kind of flag or shield would be more accurate to kind defend themselves. They’re interested in stories. So, the thing with 1984 is everything is under surveillance.

“Oh, you sound like a liberal. It seemed to start to work itself out a little bit.

No one believes it. Again, the first free speech groups were organized to fight for the rights of radicals by which I mean communists – this is before 1917 – to promote their ideas which were heavily censored either through the market which I don’t really regard as censorship and obviously through governments.

And at a certain point after Leon Czolgosz who said he was inspired by Emma Goldman killed President McKinley and Teddy Rosevelt became president, they basically made it a law that if you were a leper or syphilis or an anarchist, we don’t want you here.

Do you think that North Korea is as close to Orwell’s 1984 as any society in human history?

Michael Malice: Not at all because they don’t have electricity. Well, if you’re eliminating a portion of the public because they engage in wrong think, as you judge it, well you’re not living up to what you claim to be.

Michael Malice: Correct.

Nico Perrino: The local community group that doesn’t want the person who kind of shit posts on the neighborhood community group every day and shares information that is irrelevant to most of the community members, that’s different than Twitter.

And if we’re talking about at least state power you’re talking about in many cases state universities?

Michael Malice: But how were they censored? And it’s really unfair in my view for us to sit here and judge someone else when they don’t have all the facts.

Nico Perrino: Did you judge the old regime of Twitter?

I mean literal communists. Not a hair salon, like a salon in the old sense where people got together to meet once a week. And they would regard that as antithetical to anarchism.

Nico Perrino: So, these are the people who build collectives and anarcho-communists?

Michael Malice: Yeah, but also just think a lot of an-caps I think I would kind of split company with them on some things as well.

You have a number of chapters of Students for Justice in Palestine on college campuses right now who are chanting “From the river to the sea Palestine will be free” or “Intifada.”

And some of the arguments that in this case, the state of Florida is making is that these groups are conspiring with Hamas, or they are providing material support for terrorism because they are supporting the actions that Hamas took in Israel on October 7th.

So, I don’t like that term. It's infinite. They kind of followed the script.

Michael Malice: What’s the – you go to their house and shoot them. So would a lot of other people, I suspect.

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